(This is the rough draft of the postings on the Voynich List, 11-2014)

I'm pretty excited about the Smilax Update 

and its posted now at the gardens so everyone can check it out

The post at the list the other day was extensive and a lot to learn 

and yet even more to learn.   

But here is the garden SMILAX update 

I want to thank you all for helping achieve this breakthrough

and it took a lot of trial and error to get here ! Whew !  100  years ! 

When I was going over this and the many proposals for f96v just 

were not resolving, each had significant problems and my mind 

finally said  ok enough, something is wrong here its not fitting Ouch !

So starting over from scratch, and every red berry on the planet 

it finally dawned on me we were looking at virtually the same plant !!!

Two of the same?  Well no   Two Species of the same GENUS ! 

So oh dear there are a hundred Smilax everywhere, 

So going down the list and seeing all the variations of evolution 

its quite a world adventure !   And then I finally found one that looked 

good,  the pages were in some weird language  Bulgarian or Turkish or? 

Anyway, google translated them enough to get the idea that there was 

another species not far away in Anatolia, Black Sea perimeter, Balkans & 

Greece that was probably the one the Myth of Smilax came from 

So Smilax excelsa  came into focus   but it took more to show the 

berries and leaves so forth better.  Its not as long cordate as the EU S. aspera 

and more triangular  almost hastate.  This led me to propose Atriplex prostrata

because the leaves matched so well, but none of the rest did. 

Its hard to do this justice fully, the intensity of this in a garden is tremendous 

and freaks people out !   One day ya see it creeping over the fence the next day ..

Oh what have we here?

Ok, we'll just prune it up a little WOW !


Maybe we can escape by boat ?   
OMG those invasive African Water Lillies f2v Nymphoide ezanoii
have that escape route blocked too!

 Its too late !  One turned into a Rose the other into


All The Best

Steve D.

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 5:13 PM, SD  wrote:

f17v, Smilax aspera, Italian Smilax
f96v Smilax excelsa, Anatolian Smilax
f99r Smilax excelsa Extract New ID's

Previously, f17v ID'ed by Dana Scott as Buckwheat, 
f96v as Smilax tracheia ? by Theo Petereson  
unknown species name
f96v ID'ed by Theo Peterson as Atriplex bonus 
also proposed by Dianne O'Donovan
and theo & me as Atriplex hastata/prostrata 
f99r ID'ed by me as Atriplex  prostata 

Then it started to crumble, the plants looked too similar
Dr Sherwood thought the f96v was Black Bryony 
but that didnt quite work either  
White Bryony a diff Genus is known as Womandrake
but that has palmate 5 leaves  etc so that was out.
If its not a Veggie or a Dangerous Drug Plant then what?
It all had crumbled in confusion. and sunk into quicksand.
I started over from scratch.  The Smilax Genus


Smilax aspera  Italian Sarsaparilla
More cordate pointed leaves, larger tuberous roots
with multiple stems ("vine bush")

f96v Smilax excelsa, Anatolian Sarsaparilla

Smilax excelsa  Anatolia Asia Minor

f99r  Smilax excelsa Root Extract
Note Unripe Green Berry Cluster


Typical Triangular Leaf  

Tan Fibrous Tubers

Greenbriar Root Texas 

Smilax china  Smilax china  Round leaves open berries


Special thanks to Dr. Sherwood for her great f17v Smilax ID 
and Flora Italiana for making this species ID easy!  aspera

So all this confusion seems to be resolved in a most special spectacular 
WAY NO ONE WAS AWARE OF , Only Great Glimpses.

One Genus, Two Species, Three Folios,  and a wider range of 
Uses and Biochemistry and a most compelling story of the  

Origin & Myth
Greenbriers get their scientific name from the Greek myth of Krokus and the nymph Smilax.
[5] Though this myth has numerous forms, it always centers around the unfulfilled and
tragic love of a mortal man who is turned into a flower, and a woodland nymph who is
transformed into a brambly vine.
(Compare the story of Barbara Allen and sweet William:
They buried Barbara in the old church yard /
They buried Sweet William beside her /
Out of his grave grew a red, red rose / And out of her's a briar.) I love a happy ending ! All The Best Steve D

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